Kel-Tec P32 Review - Mousegun Mirth!

.32 Auto Keychain

Words cannot describe how happy I am so far with this gun.

Yeah, it's that good. And it is so good because it is so surprising.

It is not surprising because of it's superior Browning design (I don't know of another tilt-barrel pistol of this size), because it shoots a decently powerful .32 cartridge and yet manages recoil very well, because it is less than 7 ounces, five inches long, and less than an inch thick, and practically disappears in a pants pocket. It is not even good because it is reliable and acccurate.

It is surprising because it manages ALL of these tricks at once. This is a gun you can carry when you don't want to carry a gun. Stick it in your pocket, and it disappears, not to be thought of until you need it, or you get home and empty your pockets.

Now, there are people who look down their noses at the .32 auto. I agree. Although I regularly carry a 9mm, I sometimes feel that isn't enough gun. And, it a perfect world, I wouldn't consider anything less than a .40.

But, every one of those other guns has serious drawbacks to carrying. My full size 9mm, the Bersa Thunder, can be carried in an inside the pants holster, but the handle often prints through whatever shirt I wear over it. Plus, after a few hours, it tends to become uncomfortable.

I also have a Kel Tec P40, which I carry in a separate waist pouch. The waist pouch works great, but you have to deal with the extra bulk of carrying something "outside" your body. Also, access isn't great, because you still have to unzip it to draw your weapon.

But, when you shove the P32 in your pocket, it is as accessible as anything else in your pocket. And, no one will ever know you are carrying it.

It beats going unarmed, and that's the point. As a friend said, it beats throwing rocks.

Or, as I like to say, I don't know of a gun with which anyone would like to be shot. Any gun is better than no gun.

But, that's not to say that this is a bad gun.

The Kel-Tec is surprisingly accurate and smooth. I could punch holes in a tin can with reasonable regularity out to 10 yards, which is all one can expect for such a weapon. It cycled reliably with everything I fed it, except for some old, old rounds that actually had corrosion on the outside of the cases. On one, it struck the primer but the round didn't go off...not the gun's fault. On another, the last round wasn't powerful enough to push the slide back far enough to lock. Other than those (obviously ammunition related) minor issues, there was not a single problem.

Despite it's ultra light weight, the Kel-Tec was comfortable to shoot. I had initially avoided getting one of these for my wife because of reports that the recoil was stiff. I went with an AP-MBP .32 for her instead. But it seems to me that the Kel-Tec doesn't really recoil any more severely than that gun, despite being half its size. She could shoot it easily, and she had no problem racking the slide. She liked the way the Kel-Tec felt in her hand, and of course, it's "cute". She might end up taking it from me.

Guys...if you have a significant other who can shoot any handgun above a .22, rest assured that the Kel-Tec will be no problem for her.

Conclusion: The Kel-Tec will probably start going with me everywhere. I might carry it by itself, or as a back-up-gun, but it is so light and convenient, there is no reason NOT to carry it around with me everywhere. What is surprising from something this small and inexpensive ($249 at the local sporting goods store) is that the Kel-Tec is a real gun...not just a novelty that doesn't deliver on its promise.

Hi Point C9 Review...A Lot of Time and Effort, Very Little in the Way of Results.

I had rotten luck with the Hi Point C9. That might make some mad. Heck, it makes ME mad! But, the truth is the truth.

I tried to like the C9, which is Hi Point's 9mm pistol. I really did try to like it. I bought an extra mag for it to try to make it work better, but it jammed. I sent it back to Hi Point to see if they could get it to work. They did some work on it, declared it cured, and shipped it back. It still jammed. I took it apart and polished the feed ramp, adjusted the mag lips, replaced the magazines, replaced springs, etc. It went from jamming to the last-round-hold-open (LRHO) activating before the mag was empty.

And, it was a crying shame, because the little C9 is about as accurate a 9mm pistol as you'd ever want. It was so easy to put round after round into the same hole (or nearly so) time after time. On the impromptu target you see above, the two shots on the right are the "sighting in" shots. I gave the rear sight a couple clicks to the left then proceeded to shoot the rest of the rounds that hit in the middle. Nice.

But, I had to quit kidding myself. All the tweaking, all the work, all the parts changes just didn't seem to make a difference in this little gun. And as much as I hate to say it, and as much as I want it to work, it is getting to the point where I'm putting a lot of time and effort into this gun and not getting much in return.

Before you start saying that I'm being unfair, keep in mind that I have had this gun for almost a year, and I've really stuck with it. Before you accuse me of being a snob against cheap guns, remember that I bought my wife an AP-MBP .32 for just over $130 with tax, and it is a fine weapon. Before you accuse me of being an anti Hi Point bigot, please find my post where I review the JHP .45 and sing its praises. Also, understand that I have a 995 Carbine in my stable. It is tricked out with an ATI stock and dual mag holders. It is one of my favorites, and rides in a shorty case along with my pistol grip Mossberg (I call that my "riotpak").

And yes, I've seen this:



And believe me, if my C9 performed like that, I'd never think of getting rid of it.

Maybe next weekend I'll give it one more shot. They say that the C9 is very sensitive to how you grip it. I don't think this has anything to do with the slide locking open, but you never know.

Depending on what happens, I might just have a gun for sale next week.

EASY feed ramp polish...how to improve ANY auto pistol's reliability in 10 minutes.

You'll need:

600 grit sandpaper
1000 (or finer) grit sandpaper
Dremel tool or equivalent.
Felt wheel attachment
Automotive rubbing or polishing compound.

1) Remove the slide. If you can remove the barrel, do that too.

2) Using the 600 grit, lightly smooth the feed ramp. Also, remove any rough edges around the chamber, taking care not to bevel it. You want to SMOOTH the metal, not REMOVE it. Do as LITTLE as possible in order not to change the geometry of the chamber or feed ramp.

3) Repeat with the 1000 grit. This should take out the tiny scratches that the 600 grit left behind.

4) Now, take the Dremel with the felt wheel attachment. Coat lightly with the polishing compound. Be careful to hold this away from your face when you start it, else it may sling compound in your eyes.

5) Polish the ramp, if possible by moving UP and DOWN the ramp. Do this until you have a chrome-like finish.

6) Wipe and clean thoroughly, being sure to remove any polish residue. If necessary, swab the bore as well.

7) Your feed ramp should be nice and shiny and look like this:



8) Reassemble your gun. Go test it out.

Another cheap pistol - AP-MBP Review

My wife is getting her concealed carry permit. So, the time came to buy her a dedicated carry pistol of her own. I agonized over this quite a bit. I came up with some criteria that the new gun had to meet.

It had to have low recoil. The Kel Tec P32 was probably too small for her to handle easily, and I was worried about recoil in such a small gun. The Bersa .380, Makarov, PA-63 and CZ 83 were nice enough, but with a larger caliber, I'd read about the stout recoil of those guns too.

It also had to have a halfway decent amount of stopping power. Of course, a 9mm or even a .380 would be ideal, but maybe unmanageable for her. I even thought about going down to a .22 caliber pistol, but I didn't want her to defend herself from a bad guy with a round intended for a squirrel.

And, it had to be inexpensive, but reliable. I didn't mind paying a few hundred for it, but I didn't want to break the bank.

After a long search, I finally found a pistol that was small, but not too small; light, but not too light, and with a fairly low recoil, yet not dropping down to the inadequate .22 round, all for well under $200: the Hungarian AP-MBP.



Fortunately, it also goes by AP-7, or AP-7,65 (yes, with a comma). Those are better than AP-MBP, which is a dumb name, but at least they didn't call it "Manatee" or "Raging Pig". As it is, too many meaningless letters. I don't like the name. At all.

That's the only negative I have to say about this nifty little .32 auto pistol. Now, here are the positives.

1) Price - Actual sale price was $120. Got it "out the door" for around $132. My dad was impressed with the pistol, never dreaming it was this cheap. He was thinking it would go in the mid $200's. Now that he knows how inexpensive it is, he wants one for himself.

2) Quality - Titanium aluminum alloy frame, based on the Walther PP series pistols, a proven design. Made by FEG, who's quality is respectable, if not legendary.

3) Performance - I would trust the AP-MBP enough at this point to carry it. This thing digested a variety of hollow point and round ball ammo without a hitch. The mag is INCREDIBLY hard to load, probably more so that any other magazine in any other gun I've ever had. And, the rounds have a tendency to nose-down in the mag, but that doesn't seem to make a bit of difference, as everything loads just fine. The spring pressure is so tight that the feed lips score the rim of the cartridge if you pull one out, and you believe that the smallish slide will NEVER be able to grab the rounds out of the mag. But, the rounds are easily stripped and go into the chamber reliably. I did polish the feed ramp, mostly out of boredom.

And, the thing flat out shoots. It shot about 2" left at first, but a few taps on the rear sight with a hammer and a brass punch got it lined up. After that, it was not hard to get a 1 1/2"-2" group at 10 yards, more than accurate enough for self-defense work. I know people say that the .32 isn't much of a defensive round, and I agree. But, the AP-MBP is handy enough that you'd carry it in situations that other guns would be left at home because of their size. It's better than throwing rocks.

4) Customizability (is that a word?) - Lots of parts available for the AP-MBP, largely because of the great commonality of parts with the larger caliber PA-63. You can get spring sets to adjust slide resistance, recoil, trigger pull, etc. Plus, you can get aftermarket wood grips and holsters as well.

I already did some work on this one. Most AP-MBP pistols come with a black anodized frame, and it's not uncommon for them to be worn around the front and rear straps on the grips. I stripped the black off and polished the underlying titanium/aluminum frame to a fairly high sheen. This made it look like a completely different gun. Maybe not like new, but far easier on the eyes than the original black frame, and with much more character. I also gave it a good cleaning and touched up some worn spots in the bluing on the slide. It looks a LOT better than it did when I got it.

If you can't tell, I like the AP-MBP a lot. If you like small guns, .32 autos, service weapons, or if you always wanted a Walther PP but didn't want to pay over $500, you can't go wrong with the AP-MBP.

UPDATE: Nearly impossible to find "original" magazines for this gun, but many sources on the Internet have reported success using the larger caliber (and far easier to find) PA-63 magazines. I have compared them side by side, and they don't LOOK the same, but seemingly, the 9x18 PA-63 mag will feed the .32 caliber rounds reliably. Who'd have thought? I'm going to test this for myself, and will report back when I have results.

ANOTHER UPDATE: One issue with the AP - the decocker doesn't work. Actually, it works on rare occasions, but most of the time, moves halfway to the "safe" position, then stops, refusing to budge further. It does NOT drop the hammer unless I pull the trigger. I tested this at the range and working the decocker to the halfway position THEN pulling the trigger allows the decocker to function normally. Nevertheless, I'm not going to trust it, for the fact that this pistol's close relative, the PA-63, can sometimes discharge when the decocker is used. Apparently, the metal pieces that stop the hammer from making contact with the firing pin can become "peened" and mushroomed back to the point where the hammer WILL make contact with the firing pin, and cause the gun to fire if there is a round in the chamber. So, if you own EITHER gun, always aim downrange before using the decocker, or carefully drop the hammer while aiming the gun downrange. If you can't do this, while keeping the gun aimed downrange, drop the mag and EJECT THE ROUND before using the decocker.